Just the Facts, Ma'am: AMPTP Causing Havoc to SoCal Economy

Interesting things, facts. They are simply what they are. And yet sometimes you can read a lot into them.

Here's a fact:
On December 18, the Writer's Guild testified before the Los Angeles City Council about the economic impact of the strike.

Here's another fact:
The AMPTP didn't show up. [Gosh, just like at the negotiating table.]

Instead, they asked the MPAA to take care of it. The MPAA represents the AMPTP before all levels of government throughout the world. The MPAA also provides economic data and information on the motion picture and television business to the public.

And one more fact:
The MPAA wasn't able to attend, but they did prepare a statement to be read into the record. Now the facts start to get really interesting. Here are the salient facts from the MPAA's statement:
From our member companies' perspective, the most immediate impact has been felt in television production. Production, which has stopped, hurts the men and women who depend on that production for their livelihood.
Hmmm. That second sentence. Probably a typo, but still, an interesting Freudian slip.
The strike has forced our members to shut production of 74 television series, and consequently, nearly 10,000 workers are out of work.

Other entertainment guild and union production employees have not been receiving paychecks for many weeks, which is especially difficult as we enter the holiday season. Those employees are the men and women who belong to the Directors Guild of America, the International Alliance of Theatrical and Stage Employees, Screen Actors Guild, Teamsters and the Basic Crafts Unions including plumbers, electricians, and laborers.

The reduction in employment represents a loss of wages upwards of $350 million since the strike began. We estimate $120 million to WGA members, $205 million to IATSE members in the Los Angeles area alone, and $50 million to the Teamsters and other Basic Craft unions.

The economic consequences of the strike cannot be measured solely by wages. In addition to lost wages are the costs from the lack of sales of goods and services that go into production, which is an estimated additional $300 million. It also means that scores of other businesses from prop houses to caterers that serve productions daily in Los Angeles have also had to lay off employees.

Each day the strike continues, more people and more businesses are impacted - more layoffs and more lost revenue...
That's a lot of facts about the impact that the strike has had. Facts that make it hard for the AMPTP to justify staying away from the table over a contract for a mere $150 million dollars over three years.

But you know what's not in those facts? Defense or blame. And isn't that interesting? Wouldn't you think the representative of the AMPTP would take every opportunity to defend its sister association's righteous position and condemn the WGA before the LA City Council? Unless, of course, they don't want to.


Not-A-Troll said...

As a member of the 1984 Los Angeles Olympic committee I remember in 1980, after the Soviet Union invasion of Afghanistan, President Jimmy Carter threatened the Soviet Union with a U.S. boycott of the 1980 Moscow Olympics if they did not pull their troops out of Afghanistan. The troops stayed and the boycott went into effect.
Does anyone really believe the Soviet Union would change their foreign policy because the U.S. team wouldn't show up at their Olympics. Who did the boycott hurt? Not the Soviet Union but the over 460 American athletes who looked forward to the Olympic experience who trained four years for their moment in the sun. In the next Olympics four years later they may not qualify and miss their chance. It was taken away by their own government.

Well, there is a similar situation today with the Writers Guild. To help their cause against the studios they decided to punish the Golden Globes and the Oscars. Who is hurt? Do you really think the studios will change one single negotiating point because of the Golden Globes or the Oscars? Who it really hurts are all the people, including writers, who were looking forward to their Oscar or Golden Globe experience and who may lose their only moment to shine because of the cloud put over the events by the Writers Guild.

Like the Olympic athletes they may never get another chance and it's a shame. The joy is taken away by one of their own unions. The Olympics and the Oscars, the same story, the wrong people get punished. I hope the Writers Guild will rethink their position.

-- David L. Wolper

BTL Guy said...

To borrow a page from story theory for a moment, the inciting event of this story is not of the studios' making, rather it was the Writers walking off the job that created the economic downturn to which the writers then so gleefully point.

But, far more important and relevant to the current story, it is the Writers' turn in the cycle of negotiations to present a counter to the AMPTP demands.

The AMPTP may have walked away from the table after issuing demands, but where is the Writers response? It can be delivered to them, you know, even if they're not at your hotel.

The spin cycle has got to stop. Lather, rinse, repeat if necessary and get this thing done. It is not all their fault. There is plenty of blame to go around.

And that's a fact.

Dennis Wilson said...

BTL Guy,

If indeed it's the "writers' turn in the cycle of negotiations to present a counter to the AMPTP demands," allow me to get the ball rolling. Our demands are these:

1.) 2.5 percent of all revenue, from whatever source, derived from the use our content on all media, be they physical or "virtual." We get a nickel for every two dollars that comes in over the transom whenever our work is used.

2.) complete jurisdiction over reality TV and all film and TV animation.

3.) restoration of our health plan to what it was before the hemorrhagic rollbacks earlier this decade.

4.) free Toyota Priuses for every member of the WGA.

There. If you need a bargaining chip, pick demand no. 4.

BTL Guy said...


Thanks for clearing up the WGA "negotiating" strategy for me.

So, the plan is to shut down working Hollywood for good. (Cos you're not getting those first three points either -- at least not this year or next).

Might not be a bad idea, I guess, since all the Writers seem to be off forming companies to produce internet content without union crews. You kill the bigwig competition, hit the reset button, and reap the rewards.

I think I underestimated you guys.

Bush's war was never about WMDs, your strike was never about DVD revenue. Nice.

Dennis Wilson said...

BTL Guy, you underestimate everything.

Krono said...

@BTL Guy

Bush's war was never about WMDs, your strike was never about DVD revenue. Nice.

Of course the strike was never about DVD revenue. If it was, they'd have never have taken it off the table in exchange for empty promises to keep talking. Instead rather, it's about writers getting paid fairly for their work. Which is something the AMPTP apparently isn't interested in.

Bill said...

WGA borrows from GW's playbook:

1. Stay The course.
(that one seems to be working just GREAT)

2. If you're not with us, you're against us.
(Anyone who questions the plan is as good as a terrorist)

I guess in hindsight the wga AND the amptp have the same playbook.

I'm sure this post will be deleted as the rest of my posts have been. You both ask for UNCONDITIONAL support, which is something that just does not exist except in a flock of sheep.

BTL 399
Out of work
Not on strike
Disgusted with BOTH sides

K said...

I don't think this strike will ever end. And if it does, there's not going to be anything to salvage.

I'm not a writer. I'm not a producer. I'm not in the industry at all. I'm a TV viewer, loyal to a couple of shows that I miss greatly. I don't watch reality TV. Never watched American Idol at all. In fact, I'll probably cancel my satellite dish subscription. I mean, what's the point of keeping it? The only show I watch faithfully is on a local channel.

I wonder though. Sure, the alliance is acting like a bully. But does taunting the bully ever work? I mean, really? Does calling the bully names and making fun of them make them want to be nice to you? Like Dr. Phil says, "How's that workin' for ya?"

It seems to me, an outside observer who follows the news (when it's reported) and Nikki's blog that BOTH sides need to go into time out like I do with my toddlers. Did the WGA really think pressing charges against the producers would make them want to come to the table? I'm NOT in the industry and I knew that was a bad plan. It's almost as if the WGA WANTS the strike to continue. I know that can't surely be the case, but it just seems that way sometimes.

Yes, I think writers deserve a share of the residuals. I've bought pencils and encouraged my friends to do the same. I've written letters to the networks. If writers didn't write, we wouldn't have the shows we watch. But reality TV? Complete jurisdiction? C'mon, writers don't run the studios. That's not their jobs. Writing is their jobs and they should be paid for that sure, but why all the control issues? Again, I'm not in the industry so I don't understand. It just seems like the demands are a bit steep. I am open minded enough, though, to accept when I am wrong and so if someone wants to explain it to me, go ahead. I'm eager to know the truth.

I've read reports that this strike is going to last into the summer, and possibly longer. You may not care, you may be in it for the long haul, but a lot of people are going to suffer because of it. And it is the fault of BOTH sides.

Now for a bit of "shallowness" from me. I miss my show. I will watch the repeats again and again. I've not purchased the iTune version because writers don't get the revenues from that, or so I believe. If I'm wrong, correct me 'cuz I'd love to have a season pass. One show in particular "owns" me body and soul and has helped me through some incredibly difficult times. I recognize that part of that reason is the writing. It touches me. Combine that with the characterization of the two main leads and the direction...well, to say it saved my life would not be an exageration. I cringe at the thought of that show being cancelled because of the strike.

So that's my perspective as someone in the midwest watching this play out like a bad soap opera.

I hope negotiations start back soon. I hope you get a fair deal. I just don't think that'll happen though unless attitudes change on both sides.

family said...

I am so happy about the WGA strike. I hope they all lose their homes and have to file bankruptcy. I don't understand how people are smart enough to write, but not smart enough to realize that if they are not getting a fair deal, maybe they should find a new job. Last I checked we were not in a communist nation. People are free to choose their own occupations.

I think everyone will win. people who really want jobs will work, others will remain on strike, and the American family will be brought back to it's core values.

So continue your strike, continue your whining, and continue you collision course to failure. America is better for it.

Get a clue, get a life, get a JOB.

Shawn said...

Hey unhappy BTL workers: Please read this and think before posting more anti WGA sentiments. This is truth.

Studios were preparing for a strike back in January. My friend who is highly placed at one of the major studios was constantly making "strike scenario" financial projections.

In April, after studios produced all their pilots, they realized that they ALL realized that whatever shows the networks ordered, they were all going to be a poor selection. NBC's favorite shows were CHUCK and BIONIC WOMAN and both have slid downhill every week, while ABC, Steve McPherson told people how much he hated DIRTY SEXY MONEY, yet that became one of the few hits (goes to show what network execs know about what people want).

Once it was clear that this fall season was one of the worst in recent TV history, the studios/networks decided (YES DECIDED) that a strike by the WGA would be a good thing so that they could write these shows off, get rid of some talent/writer/producer deals, and lay some people off in-house (their starting to do this now - pods at Fox whose deals were up are not getting renewed).

Nick Counter was given the directive to make "little inroads" so that the WGA would have no choice BUT to strike. So when you guys curse at the WGA for causing this mess, you guys have to understand that the studios/networks caused it so that they can do the force majeure stuff, and once that's done, and once they make a deal with the DGA, THEN they make some sort of gesture to get back to this strike issue.

In the meantime, the AMPTP is using a lot of money (on the PR companies they hired and on buying ads) to try to get people (mainly BTL employees) to direct their pain and anger at writers, and it seems to be working on a few - sad to say.

Unfortunately, this is going to go a while - the writers will continue to picket. They will have theme days and make the time better to pass. And without the monetary resources of the AMPTP, the writers will try their best to counter the AMPTP's PR missives.

This strike sucks. Let's all try to get a long.

intrigued said...


I said exactly what you just said from one of my original posts!!! People said I didnt know what I was talking about. I didnt need anyone with inside information to tell me the AMPTP wanted this strike, THEIR actions told me they WANTED this strike!!! And they want it to continue.

However, I have to point out to that just because the AMPTO wanted this strike, the WGA did not have to give it to them! IMO, it was very poor strategy to give the other side what they wanted.

I'm not saying to not fight for what you feel is fair, but you could have kept negotiating while the WGA continued to work under the terms of the previous contract.


BTL Guy said...


Assuming everything you say is true, then the WGA just played right into their hands. Not something to be proud of.

Did the Guild do their own cost projections? What were the projections about how long the strike would last?

I honestly think the leadership basically "best-cased" everything and sorely underestimated the entire strike and negotiation (sorry, Dennis, I guess I'm not the only one out here who underestimates...).

And, in general, I think you will find that when a United Hollywood front page story is positive, that (for the most part) real below-the-liners are generally positive as well.

When the push back comments come, it is almost always from some finger-pointing, half truth, spin cycle story that tries to claim that this whole mess is the AMPTP's fault.

It isn't.

And I still say that if the WGA was in the middle of preparing a counter-proposal when the AMPTP walked out, why hasn't that counter-proposal been presented to the AMPTP or at least to the mediator?

(You can see an earlier post in these forums, or my website for the fantasy press release we should have seen).

Stop saying you want to negotiate, and instead, actually negotiate!

In a script, the most important thing is the dialog.

In the real world, actions speak louder than words.

aerialdas said...

Shawn, much of what you say goes hand in hand with my "uninformed" understanding of this nonsense. But it leaves me asking, if you knew of all this, and one would assume your guild knew of all this, then, how is it such a crappy strike response was developed?

And this:

shawn says:>In the meantime, the AMPTP is using a lot of money (on the PR companies they hired and on buying ads) to try to get people (mainly BTL employees) to direct their pain and anger at writers, and it seems to be working on a few - sad to say.<

Like I need an ad to tell me I am being f'd over. I didn't know the AMPTP was paying people to know they are without work... where do I sign up? Would I have to report the income to the EDD?

Ruthie said...

To Not a troll, Not_a_troll, BTL Guy, ChuckT and the rest:

Whether you're a paid studio flack or a bona fide "below the line" entertainment employee disgruntled over being laid off, your only purpose in posting here, whether you admit it to yourselves or not, is to undermine our strike.

Knock it off.

Instead of taking shots at the WGA, its leadership and the strike, which doesn't help anyone, either help us get what we need so we can all get back to work, or go start your own blog. I'll thank you to stop trolling ours now.

audiopostpro said...

Funny how people give the WGA such a hard time for striking for what they believe in.
It's so easy to be so complacent about your own situation, which most people are in America, and not having the balls to do anything about it.

I commend the WGA for doing what's right, and for what they believe in.
Why shouldl they let the producers walk all over them?
Producers who don't have a creative bone in their body, and for some reason don't feel that those who do the creating should be able to make a fair wage from their work.

Do any of the critics here even realise the rewards Producers and head of studio's get. Not just on a yearly salary, but in the longterm?
It makes what the WGA is asking for, pale in comparison.
But that's ok, right?

Just because you've submitted to working a mediocre job you hate, and you allow your boss to screw you, doesn't mean everyone has to.

BTL Guy said...


I think you are overreaching in your generalization; and you bring to mind the Bushies saying "you're either with us or you're against us."

Just as a reasonable person can be against the war, but support the troops; be against the war but also against Saddam; so, too, can someone disagree with the strike and/or WGA tactics while still believing in what you are fighting for, and still be against the AMPTP.

A lot of us are not so much trying to undermine the strike as we are trying to end it.

Ending the strike and getting a fair deal are not mutually exclusive; in fact, one is the purpose of the other.

There are, without a doubt, people on this site who argue ridiculously hard-line messages on both sides of the issue.

But please keep in mind that United Hollywood promotes these forums as "a place to debate and discuss."

If UH changes its purpose and wishes only to espouse WGA party-line rhetoric, without debate on the merits of the arguments, then they can start filtering the comments to the extreme.

I'll go even further -- if those who actually run United Hollywood ask me to stop posting, I will. This is their site and I appreciate that they provide the forum to discuss the strike in open terms.

But unless one of these conditions come to pass, I will respectfully continue to voice my opinion, recommendations, and (in my mind at least) moderate point of view -- even if the above is in dissent of the WGA strategy.

And I would encourage everyone on all sides of the issues to do so, as opposed to those who wish we would just "knock it off."

Shawn said...

Intrigued, BTL Guy, Aerialdas,

A couple of things to address your posts... Know that while my statements may sound like I'm defending the guild's leadership, I am in no way speaking on their behalf:

Yes the WGA could have gone on working under the terms of the expired contract, but for how long? The AMPTP didn't extend ANY forward-moving chip since July. We all know that the AMPTP would like nothing more than to kill unions (nothing personal on their part, it's a corporate philosophy). So for the WGA to presume that a fair deal would eventually be struck and keep working would have been stupid (everyone should understand this - those that don't are clouded by emotion). The guild could have struck in the Spring or Summer, but that would have only given the studios/networks more content to last for a MUCH longer strike than the one currently going. I think we have to understand that the WGA didn't want to strike, but were forced to (even you know this Intrigued). Who WANTS to strike? The PR ploy that the AMPTP is shooting off about how the guild's leadership wanted to strike without any concern for their members or BTL crew is a joke, especially since we know that the AMPTP is the one that absolutely wanted this (which it truth).

To spew hate on the WGA leadership is one thing, but to do so without taking a look at the IATSE leadership is another. The fact is that this situation is much more the AMPTP's fault than it is the WGA's because this is what the AMPTP wanted all along (I think we all know this by now). So why is Tom Short siding with the AMPTP, who REALLY doesn't care about not only writers, but also the BTL crew who are without jobs? The answer, while it may sound completely stupid, those that really know him (I unfortunately do as I have worked with him for over eight years) know that the reason is this:

Tom Short wants to align himself with the powerful, and is someone who (not unlike most political figures) has a personal agenda for his career that isn't in unison with that of his responsibility as a union leader. His history with Patrick Verrone notwithstanding (they hate each other fine), you HAVE to at least for a second question why he is SO gung ho about standing in line with the AMPTP (who would in an INSTANT break his union if they had the opportunity) rather than being more like Alan Rosenberg. Forget that, at the very least, as a union leader, he should at least be like the leaders of the DGA, who may not like what's going on considering their own agenda, but is much more diplomatic about it because they understand the Union vs. Union-buster dynamic.

Fact of the matter is this: if IATSE was in line with the WGA and SAG, the unions would have SO MUCH more leverage against the AMPTP, and a deal MIGHT be reached much quicker, AND, while the significance of health and pension benefits are constantly debated, the truth is that there IS some linkage between the unions' health and benefits plans.

With regard to the WGA's leadership - should they have and could they have better prepared for the strike? Sure. They could have told everyone that this strike is going to last 6 months or longer. What would that have done? I personally think they should have told their members to turn in scripts with missing pages when the studios/networks were asking them to work overtime to turn in drafts before their contract expired. But that's easy to say now.

No one's going to give a care about my opinion, but personally, I think the following should happen:

The WGA should picket next week and the week after and picket one studio a day, because the number of picketers are definitely shrinking (not going to happen).

Tom Short should side with the WGA and SAG (not going to happen).

SAG members currently shooting movies or shooting movies in the new year should stage a sickout (not going to happen) because THEN and ONLY THEN, will the industry TRULY be affected, and this, AND ONLY THIS, WILL BRING THE AMPTP BACK TO THE TABLE.

SO, considering the reality, we should a) understand that the AMPTP is the one MOSTLY at fault here b) not believe anything the AMPTP is propagandizing c)hope the DGA makes a quick deal because whether or not it's a good one, the AMPTP can maybe focus on the WGA again and d) have a nice holiday (as nice as we can have considering the sad state the business we all love is in).

symmons2 said...

The writers are really a joke. The more I talk to people the more I hear negative comments on writers.
Well, I fault the writers leadership. The fact that you are asking for the animators and reality is a joke. You shouldn't get them and your not going to. Yup you know it, you would control to much. Oh sorry to point that one out to the general public. I do support your points on gaining on the kick backs for your shows. Yup bargain away with that stellar man of men Mr. David Young. He's done so well for your guild. The fact that now you guys have to piggy back off the DGA for research is simply, well I'm a loss for words on that one. How can you guys honestly follow these guys. Keep thinking that you are fighting the right fight, I guess that helps you sleep at night.

Not-A-Troll said...


What I posted here is a letter to the editor that I thought made a pretty good point. If you think I am going to come in and drink the kool aid with you and just talk about how this strike is wonderful you have another thing coming.

Merry Force Majeure!!! May your holidays be as dark as those you helped get laid off!

(that good enough for you Ruthie?)

intrigued said...


your last post was very well articulated. and although i agree with just about everything u say...

i will dissent a little. When you state that the AMPTP is mostly at fault for the strike, you are WRONG. The AMPTP can not initiate a strike, they can lock out a group of workers (in essence a strike starteg by management against a union). Once again I agree with you that the AMPTP wanted a strike and baited the WGA into a strike, but thats where the WGA leadership has to suck it and realize that it puts them in a weaker position to give them what they want. Without knowing their true motives I have to assume the WGA leadership called for this strike because of ego (as they felt disrespected and pushed around by the treatment they were getting from the AMPTP) or simply lack of preparedness.

Your argumen (and I've heard it from others as well) that striking early instead of waiting for SAG's contract to expire prevents the studios from stockpiling scripts is ubsurd! (sounds like an excuse the WGA leadership gave the writers to make them support the strike) The reason it is ubsurd is because with SAG joining you in a strike - THERE WOULD BE NOBODY TO ACT OUT ANYTHING YOU WROTE ANYWAY!!!

So you gave up the opportunity to wait for the additional leverage of SAG so that the studios wouldn't have any scripts they couldn't film anyway.

To sum up you agree with me that the AMPTP wanted a strike, you agree this likely won't be resolved until SAG gets involved, so YOU HAVE TO AGREE THAT THE WGA STRIKING WHEN THEY DID WAS AN ABSOLUTELY IRRESPONSIBLE DECISION!

Writers could still be working and earning wages (as well the non-writers who are affected), the WGA leadership could still be negotiation and trying to force the AMPTP's hand with other strategies, and they would have the absolute same leverage in June as they have now but they would have the added leverage of SAG.

Shawn said...

Intrigued, you wrote:

Writers could still be working and earning wages (as well the non-writers who are affected), the WGA leadership could still be negotiation and trying to force the AMPTP's hand with other strategies, and they would have the absolute same leverage in June as they have now but they would have the added leverage of SAG.

- You are absolutely right about this, and I totally agree with you.

Stencil Revolution said...

Dear Mr Wolper,

First of all you can't compare the Oscars to the Olympics!

They may both be big events but they don't have the same significance.

Unless u want us to become like the former Soviet Union where a few "good" men ruled and called all the shots I suggest you get behind the WGA and support its just and fair cause.

Writers are mature enough to understand what's important and what is not.

The Academy, which by the way never recognized Alfred Hitchcock's genius, has no merit for me.

I could do without its stupid statue but I couldn't do without the money I've worked hard for.

No one is getting punished here but the current system.

If I'm correct you have a son Mark who is also a producer, how would u feel if he couldn't make money, if he couldn't live off of his work?

We're not asking for somebody else's money, we're asking for our money.

And there are laws in this country that are constantly violated, why?

For me it is very important that people's work is recognized, respected and paid.

More important then the Oscars, the Golden Globes and the Olympics together.

When they don't pay you they don't respect you.

James Mockenhaupt

mr. Stern said...

Since writers do nothing and don't contribute at all in the movie business let them scream and strike and bitch and whine and never surrender to their outrougeous demands.

The useless must be put aside. I really don't understand what your problem is? The Oscars? Everybody gets what they deserve in the end.

You're presented with a great opportunity here. Show biz orbits in a new direction. Movies and shows without scripts. Which means more awards for you to share amongst your selves!

Why settle for the best picture Oscar when you can sweep all Oscars for orininality?

Frustrated Bystander said...

One of the things that has been spoken to but always dismissed, about timing the strike to start in October versus in June, is the financial pressure that not having scripts in the pipeline puts on the studios. If WGA had waited until June, as the studios and many people wanted, there would have been no great financial impact. We all know the bottom line in corporate culture is the almighty dollar.

I keep feeling like those of you who post here, griping about the June timing are positing that the AMPTP is a reasonable "partner" and "ally" and that the WGA membership screwed themselves for voting a 90% "yes" to strike if need be.

I agree that the strike timing made a very poor holiday for people who knew a possible strike was coming but chose not to plan for it.

It was no secret, since January of last year (and earlier) that contract negotiations for new revenue streams were on the table. The significance of this is enormous and anyone not paying attention to the issues at hand and got "caught blind-sided" by the timing of the strike is a mouse who is not doing their research and reading. Choosing to stay blind to the wolf does not necessarily grant said mousey access to the self-righteous mice club.

I am intrigued more by your "solution focused" ideas than I am by your complaining. You are now my Guild leader. As my new Guild leader, some of your points really make me happy:

1) Goody, I get to work until June -- "you could have kept negotiating while the WGA continued to work under the terms of the previous contract."

2) Great, I'm happy to hear you are still at the table even if the AMPTP has walked out -- "if the WGA was in the middle of preparing a counter-proposal when the AMPTP walked out, why hasn't that counter-proposal been presented to the AMPTP or at least to the mediator? "

3) Awesome, you are really listening to me, providing me a forum for discussing new ideas to move the negotiations forward, and fighting for my best interests -- "United Hollywood promotes these forums as 'a place to debate and discuss.'"

4) Yes! I don't have to care about reality writers who have no coverage or feature animation writers who are covered under other unions. Thank God, they're not MY concern. Good riddance. -- "The fact that you are asking for the animators and reality is a joke. You shouldn't get them and your not going to."

5) Partnerships and collusion rule! So you're saying we should strike in June with SAG and IATSE? And that you have a plan that big bad wolf who blew down the house of straw and the house of mud, can't get to your house of brick? -- "piggy back off the DGA for research." and "you gave up the opportunity to wait for the additional leverage of SAG."

So far, your action plan sounds intense and impactful, and I get to keep writing while you continue to negotiate!

Tell me more about your plan for a good deal with the AMPTP so we don't have to strike in June, okay? A strike in June would be a really bad thing. I heard SAG is prepping their members to strike, but your leadership is so strong that you still have us writing and negotiating. You might want to consider finding a way to get those reactive actors off of our deal so they don't ruin our a moderate position and drive the AMPTP away from the table.

You are obviously are a very bright and intelligent Guild leader. I want to hear more.

ChuckT said...

Blogger Ruthie said...

To Not a troll, Not_a_troll, BTL Guy, ChuckT and the rest:

Whether you're a paid studio flack or a bona fide "below the line" entertainment employee disgruntled over being laid off, your only purpose in posting here, whether you admit it to yourselves or not, is to undermine our strike.

Knock it off.

Instead of taking shots at the WGA, its leadership and the strike, which doesn't help anyone, either help us get what we need so we can all get back to work, or go start your own blog. I'll thank you to stop trolling ours now.

Ruthie, (1) Clearly, the people who manage this blog think differently than YOU do about people voicing their opinions (and it's a good thing they aren't afraid of voices of dissension like YOU are) so perhaps it's YOU who should start your own blog; (2) you sound like you're in junior high school ("this is OUR blog... get off of our turf... blah, blah blah") - grow up; and (3) I owe you NOTHING, not even support (and those of us who do NOT work in your self-absorbed industry have JUST AS MUCH RIGHT TO VOICE AN OPINION AS YOU DO (unless, of course, the entire purpose of this blog is for a bunch of whiny people to stroke each other rather than have lively debate that will LEAD TO SOLUTIONS). Again, grow up sweetie. And if you don't like my posts, here's the reeeally awesome thing... you can IGNORE THEM!!